Showing posts with label DKX4A. Show all posts
Showing posts with label DKX4A. Show all posts

Thursday, 28 August 2025

SQ4 - small change to the distributor

 Just a tiny but maybe significant change today - this may be a mistake particularly as I'm changing two things at once - but I have just changed one of the distributor advanced springs.

The Square Four has always had two different springs which is not uncommon and it's designed to adjust the advance curve provided by this simple mechanism.

What I've done is replace the heavy spring with another which matches the existing lighter spring. As you'll know, at the same time I have repaired and inlet flange leak on the carburettor so I am committing a crime against my own rule of changing more than one thing at a time!

In other news, the Solex is almost complete and will go back on tomorrow I expect. The Huntmaster is also done - all I have to do is put the tank back on.

Monday, 12 May 2025

SQ4 - updating the ignition system

 The Square Four is on the bench at the moment for some maintenance and an electronic ignition conversion. 

I'm fitting an Accuspark system to see what advantages I can really gain. I'm led to believe that the bike will start more easily and will be smoother - I'm hoping that it may be slightly less rattly particularly in the coupling gears and I've also been told that running in town is better as the Hall effect sensor is less sensitive to the low voltage the dynamo provides at low speeds.

This is what you get in the kit - a new distributor base with the Hall effect sensor and 3 magnetic sleeves to go over the distributor cam. I understand that they are all the same magnetically but you use the one that fits best.

Here's the old setup - it works perfectly and is original. Starting is very easy so it will be interesting to see what I gain, if anything. I don't have to change anything permanently here: I can retrofit this system easily if I want to - I won't be cutting or removing any wires


There's two things to check in the battery box - one that it really is negative earth and two that I have removed the fuse to isolate the battery.


This is a useful view of the current cam and auto advance setup - you'll notice the odd springs. I don't think they're supposed to be like that but it's curious that I have a single spare spring in my box of ignition parts. Anyway, the second thing is that those rivets are raised compared to the body of the distributor and will foul the base plate of the new electronic ignition sensor so there is some work to do to provide clearance.


I've measured the diameter of the circle described by the rivets and marked it out on the base plate using a pair of odd-leg callipers, ready to cut a hole.


The base plate is actually quite thick - probably 2 mm or so. Since I can't find my Abrafile I have chain drilled inside the circle and will have to file it out. The housing is made from sheet steel set into thermosetting plastic and we don't want to crack it using some over-brutal method.


So that's it filed out quite neatly but we don't want to be too self-congratulatory at the moment do we! The problem is not obvious but actually it is not only the rivets in that ignition cam that are proud of the distributor body mounting face - that diamond shaped piece is also verging on being too high as well. I toyed with the idea of reducing the height of the whole cam assembly for a while but the real solution is to open the hole out again.


And as if by magic here it is, opened out to 40 mm. The difficulty that arises now is that the two M3 mounting holes for the sensor are very close to the edge of the hole and in one case the hole is no longer complete so I'll have to think of some other method.


The sensor was originally mounted on a little brass plate so what I've done is used that brass plate and the existing holes in the steel base plate to position a much larger brass plate that bridges the 40 mm hole in the base plate. I made the brass plate much too large but roughly the right shape and drilled for the two M3 holes for the sensor, fixing the brass plate into place on the base plate through the sensor holes. I then drilled two more holes outside of the large central 40 mm hole and fixed the new brass plate with two additional M3 screws. That way I could guarantee that the sensor would remain in its original position.


And here it is fitting nicely. The three rotating magnets are quite different shapes internally, and only one fits this cam - and it fits firmly.


And again we have the rotor arm in place and the distributor base plate screwed down.

I've temporarily wired it up for the moment - the red wire goes to the positive feed on the coil and the black wire goes to the contact breaker side of the coil. It will need some PVC tubing over the wires and some better quality eyelets, and I'm waiting for some thermal paste to use with the sensor and the brass plate but it will do for the purposes of testing. 

Hopefully I will get an opportunity in the next day or two to start the engine.

Post script: I started the engine on the 13th May, loosening off the distributor and retarding the timing to get it going; the Hall Effect sensor made an odd buzzing or fizzing sound which made me switch off in a hurry to check the wiring. The wiring was fine; the sensor wasn't tight enough on the baseplate which seemed to improve matters. It's still doing it and it sounds thermal. With the engine warm I advanced the timing to more or less where it had been before and went for a test ride. It's certainly smoother.

A few weeks later, and it's all working fine. The battery seems to be remaining at full charge most of the time now, so it appears that the ignition system is drawing less current than it used to.

Tuesday, 29 November 2011

Distributor - All done!

So, this weekend we finished off the distributor and did some easy jobs, painting one or two electrical pieces.

We also had a bit of an eBay-Fest, and got some good bits from John Mitchell

These two are the distributor cap again. If you look at the one on the left, you'll see the wire staples we put in have now been covered with an epoxy putty (free of metal fillers and non-conducting - thanks to the advice of the AOMCC members!). In the right picture, we've filed, sanded & painted the putty to match the rest of the distributor cap.




 
Here are a few more views of the finished distributor. It's been fully stripped down & cleaned. Painted parts have been re-painted, plated parts have been cleaned of any corrosion and replaced. The capacitor has been refitted, but we have no means of testing it so it may need some attention later. There is no evidence of pitting on the points though.



Last thing before we go back to work - the ignition switch and coil. The coil checks out on the meter, and has just been cleaned and repainted. The ignition switch has been stripped, cleaned and painted and a new key made from some scrap brass.

Next step - the headlamp!

In the meantime, eBay has come up trumps with original front mudguard, rear mudguard and lower chainguard. John Mitchell has sent a clutch lever (for the gearbox) and the offside footrest support, and we have one or two more original spanners for the toolkit.

More next week when the parcels arrive!

Tuesday, 22 November 2011

SQ4 - repairing the distributor

Here is the broken corner of the cap. The plan is that we will repair it with a metal loaded filler - we've fitted brass wires to small holes drilled in the cap, to act as a reinforcement for the filler... at least, that is the plan...

Here's the body again. It's been dismantled, degreased, primed & painted. The original screws, labels & cap clips have been cleaned up & refitted. The cam and auto advance have been cleaned, polished & lubricated. Looking good.

Monday, 21 November 2011

First parts in the workshop


This is first part up for refurbishment. It's the Lucas DKX4A distributor, it's all present and correct, but the there is a chunk missing from the cap. The bearings are good though!