Showing posts with label valve timing. Show all posts
Showing posts with label valve timing. Show all posts

Monday, 6 May 2024

FH - assembling the inner timing case

 Lots of work faces now, but an interim look at the cylinder head reveals that the valves and guides are beyond use - there is a couple of millimetres of rock at the edge of the valve head, with the valve half out of the guide. 

So, while I wait for a new set of guides, valves and springs let's start on the timing gear. Fitting the pinions is straightforward once I have deburred the Woodruff keys. The timing is set to the marks:

I've cleaned the dynamo straps since you have to have the inner timing case off to fit them. I'll plate these at some stage if I'm not too busy riding the bike:


The oil pressure release valve has been through the ultrasonic bath and has a new 5/16" ball. The old one was grooved and rusty:


Next, for the record, the pump drive washer is fitted:


I've made a small spacer from gasket paper for the end of the pump. Each of the stud threads has been cleaned up and fitted with blue Loctite thread lock:


I've used the original deep nuts - I've flattened these and recut the threads, adding a chamfer:


If you read my last post, you'll know that there is supposed to be a thrust washer in the nose of the pump, under the circlip. It needs to be 14.5 mm OD x 2 mm thick.


I had a bit of 3/4" EN11 in the lathe to make a late-pattern QD hub nut spanner, so I've used a bit to make the thrust washer:


I've left the pip in it to make it easier to get out. Next, the pump drive lock washer - the inner tang fits in a groove (like a keyway only less deep) in the end of the crankshaft. The tang on the new one is much wider than the remains of the one on the old washer  - time to get the needle files out:


With that in place, we can knock the tab washer down. On the crankshaft, I have bent the washer over both the lock nut and the pump drive sleeve:


For the record, the cam drive tab washer is knocked down too:


I've also finished polishing the timing cases:


I had to clean a lot of carbon off the timed breather sleeve before it would fit, and relieve a pip on the outside. It's fitted with the thickest cork washer available (5/32") and the gasket is coated with Wellseal. I've only done the inner face for the moment as I will want to take it off again.


Test fit:

That's it for now. Next I will probably fit the dynamo drive sprocket and it's seal, but then to do any more in here I need the dynamo and the Automatic Timing Device. Both of these bits need rebuilding.

Sunday, 15 March 2015

Valve Timing

So, we had another nice little run out yesterday, on a shopping errand this time. No dramas, Amelia running nicely with her new brake shoes. She attracted some attention from a cyclist who came over exclaiming: "Oh, a Squariel! I haven't seen one of those in years!" He proceeded to tell me about his Triumph TSS and T120R, which apparently was fitted with a Morgo pump as well.

You meet the nicest people on an Ariel.

I'd heard mention of the effect valve timing has on overheating, and it occurred to me that in the joyous response to the problems I had had setting up the valve timing initially I had possibly not been too careful to get it spot on, being happy to go with the factory timing marks. Ariel folk lore tells us this is not wise.

So, when I arrived back from shopping I whipped off the offside rocker cover, the #1 plug and the front crankshaft cap and had a look - and it looked like number one inlet valve was opening near TDC - it is supposed to be 3/16" before TDC.

So, late in the night, and with the head torch on I took off the timing cover. I discovered that if you remove the dynamo sprocket you can reset the valve timing without removing the camshaft sprocket (and hence you can leave the oil pump in place too) After 4 or five attempts I finally got the timing as close as I could - which I think is spot-on. The cam chain tension makes a big difference, and you have to test it with tension on the cam chain.

I may need to change the cam chain at some point - a worn chain affects the valve timing.

So that done, I reset the ignition timing, a job which is very easy in the dark, because you can see when the points open if you turn the ignition on, since there is always a little spark when the points open. However, testing it all again the next day revealed the valve timing was indeed spot-on, but the ignition timing was way to far advanced, as evidenced by several kick-backs and spitting at the carburettor. Realising what these symptoms meant, I reset the points gap and the ignition timing again.

And after all that, as usual, she starts easily; but probably more easily than ever; she runs eagerly (though I could only manage a couple of miles) and she idles very much more smoothly.

We have some errands tomorrow; we will see what happens on a longer run

Friday, 11 July 2014

It's been a while...

About a month actually. Ariel time in the last 4 weeks has been spent on a number of fronts: 
  • welding cable guides inside the rear mudguard 
  • finishing the wiring 
  • messing about with the valve timing 
the latter item has been the most frustrating. I have a good set of guidance notes from Draganfly, written by Bruce Longman which I have followed religiously.

I assembled the head using only cylinder number 1, as I thought I would make it easy on myself and avoid having to turn the cam against four sets of valve springs.

Initially I tried the Waller-style method of aligning timing marks.



Having done this I turned the engine over to see the exhaust valve opening half way down the power stroke. Bruce says that sometimes the factory timing marks don't give the correct timing, so I tried again... and again... and again... eventually getting the timing discs and dial test indicator out to do the job the long way, all the while getting more and more proficient at releasing tension on the cam chain, removing the nuts, drawing off the crankshaft pinion before I could remove the cam shaft pinion... Always the same result.





Eventually I started doing this more scientifically, drawing the valve event charts and calculating overlaps & durations. This is what it is supposed to look like:



Frustrated with Cylinder #1, and confused by the fact that #1 runs backwards, I changed to #3 and drew another diagram:



This revealed that #3 was about 180 degrees out; while #1 inlet valve was correct and #1 exhaust valve was about 180 degrees out too. Confused, I thought about looking at #2, which was doubly frustrating because one of the pushrods would not go in the tunnel.




I set and reset valve timings for about a week, and then one day, looking at the rockers, pushrods and convincing myself that #1 inlet must somehow be on the wrong cam, I started looking at the #2 inlet pushrod problem when I happened to glance down the #1 inlet pushrod tunnel - to see the pushrod going off at a weird angle.

I now know it is possible to get a SQ4 pushrod in it's neighbour's tappet. #1 inlet was in #2 inlet's tappet, so it was operating from #2 inlet's cam! Now that I realise what I am looking at, it's obvious.

Ho hum. we live and learn. At least I found it before I pulled the head off again!