Showing posts with label regulator. Show all posts
Showing posts with label regulator. Show all posts

Sunday, 22 December 2024

FH - voltage regulator

 One of the jobs on the list is to make the dynamo work. During the wiring up process I decided to make the bike negative earth to allow for fitting of things like USB chargers and other modern accessories, on the basis that this bike will become the universal machine. To that end, the dynamo will need to be repolarized, more of which later.

Another thing that I need to do is to fit an electronic regulator to match the VRLA batteries I have fitted. The late Ariel four-strokes were fitted with a Lucas RB108 regulator, and we will replace the inside components of one of these with a V-Reg 2b from AO Services here in Norfolk.


First we remove the aluminium cover, bending back the tabs and pulling out the inner parts of the regulator:


There are two steps to removing these bits. First you can undo two nuts under the Bakelite board to release the solenoids. You will also need to remove a single screw that retains the frame of the regulator.


The next step is to cut the wires and links leading to the four terminals. It's easiest to cut these to remove the obstruction of the solenoids before you take a large soldering iron to the terminals and release the little bits of wire that are left. You can then open the terminals ready to receive the wires from the new regulator when it's time to re-solder.


The V-Reg 2b has a couple of options for retaining the unit to the base; there are two bolts supplied which fit neatly into the old solenoid holes. The next job is to route the wires to the appropriate terminals and solder them up. I like to use an old-fashioned wire lacing technique to make a small wiring harness inside the unit. The lacing is wax coated linen thread tied with a clove hitch and reef knot to hold the wires together.


All that remains is to put the cover back on and close up the aluminium tabs as best you can. Alternatively you could use some hot melt adhesive to hold the cover in place.



Thursday, 5 December 2024

FH - inching closer...

 The day seems to have disappeared again without too much workshop time but at least I've got a little bit done. 

The choke cable is now terminated to the right length, with a new nipple at the carburettor end. I didn't have the flat nipple that goes into the lever unfortunately and I didn't fancy making one on the lathe but I did have a little tiny one that goes in the choke slide.

There's not much to see here but at least we have a throttle slide and a choke slide that move independently of each other and don't have any slack in the cables.


The next little job is to make a couple of 5/16 CEI bolts to retain the finned exhaust clamps. Here I'm reducing some 0.445" stainless hex bar to the appropriate diameter for the bolts I need.


They're going to have a chamfer feature where they mate with the clamp - here is the chamfer on the clamp itself. When I have cut the thread on the bolt I will work out what the height of the bolt head above the clamp face needs to be:

That's all for a bit. I've got a 10-hour turn on the railway tomorrow which won't finish until after 11:00 at night, and then my grandchildren are coming for the weekend. Hopefully we will get the speedometer in the post either tomorrow or Saturday, so they'll be plenty to play with next week. I'll order the V-Reg2b voltage regulator as well, so we can convert the RB108.

Sunday, 10 November 2024

FH - more wiring

 Wiring jobs are plodding on at the moment. This next picture shows the splice that I have made to provide a battery feed to the horn and stop switch. It's quite difficult to follow the original wiring diagram and make all of these connections at the battery terminal with modern VRLA batteries with their tiny spade terminals.

It's soldered and covered with heat shrink sleeving.


Here is a view of the rear brake light switch. Behind the oil tank, in front of the mudguard and behind the toolbox is a very difficult position to get to to put that bullet connector in. Ariel clearly assembled the switch and the wiring before the oil tank went on - which reminds me, there is no seat bolt above the oil tank, so the tank will have to come off again!


You can also see in this picture that the rocker feed oil line is not very well fitted to the stub on the oil tank. I pushed this on a lot further.

This next one shows the wiring for the regulator, complete with the seal, clamp and split bullets:


That's the battery area complete. For the record, this is wired negative earth which means I will have to flash the dynamo at some point.


For some reason the battery lids are moulded with four cable access slots. This is because they are a copy of the original moulding which had to accommodate large Bakelite knobs for the battery terminals. I've filled two of these holes with black hot-melt glue.


Next stop, wiring up the dynamo. You can see the dynamo D connection on the left, as it connects directly to one of the brushes. The field F connection on the other side connects to one of the white field cables going into the body of the dynamo.

I oiled that felt before I closed the dynamo up.


That's the dynamo wiring sealed up. 


The last job today is to finish the wiring to the rear lamp. These are the finished cables from the harness with Japanese bullet connectors for the stop switch and rear lamp and a crimped and soldered eyelet for the earth.


The earth wire is attached to one of the rear lamp fixing bolts. 





Tuesday, 15 January 2019

Dry Build - Tool Box & Voltage Regulator

Last night included a bit of dry building activity around the toolbox, regulator and horn. I added the primary case and the clutch cover to understand the space and fastener requirements.

The toolbox hangs from one of the seat mountings using a bolt passing up through the top of the box, through the seat mounting and into the seat - all quite straightforward.


The other fixing point is this tab, beneath the toolbox which allows the toolbox to bolt to a mounting on the frame. This tab is shared with the horn.


Here's a puzzle: Ariel do not list a separate horn bracket for 1958 and here's why - the horn bolts directly to the toolbox tab as shown in MickD's picture below. I don't have those holes on my toolbox! The swinging arm toolbox carried a -54 part number through to the end of four stroke production, so I must have an earlier incarnation of the same part, designed to be used with an Altette and not the Lucas HF1441 horn used in 1958.

I will have to make an intermediate bracket, or modify my toolbox.

Post script, April 2019: This bracket was made here.


My Lucas HF1441 horn, for the FH.


Here's a Lucas voltage regulator fitted in position behind the toolbox - but this is the 40W MCR1 regulator, smaller than the correct RB108.


Here are two views of the large void from above:



And behind, complete with an up the nostril shot. Sorry about that.


A view from the front:


Monday, 14 November 2016

E3HM Dynamo

Well, the charging system is not working. Hardly surprising after an indeterminate period of laziness under the Italian sunshine, but the problem must be in the regulator, wiring or dynamo. The wiring is very simple and it's brand new; the dynamo needs inspecting anyway and is first up.

Removing the Dynamo

The dynamo is removed by releasing the clamp holding it onto the magneto and removing a nut drawing the drive end of the dynamo into the magneto drive cover. Suspicion is immediately raised by this screw:

Conspicuously shiny and really shouldn't be there!
There should be a little sleeve nut on a stud there. There is nothing too much wrong though - it motors when connected to a battery


View of the drive from the magneto. It was at this point I realised the whole magneto rocked slightly on the engine plates - not loosely, as though the mounting nuts were not tight, but as though something was bending.


The reason is that the fourth mounting is broken - we will have to invent a way of getting to that.

Broken 5/16" hex screw

Dismantling the Dynamo

This handy diagram comes from the W/NG workshop manual.



The manual is also useful to show us how to take the dynamo to pieces.

Starting to look over the dynamo on the bench, we can see the drive end bearing retaining plate (Item V in diagram H13) is loose.

Stud and sleeve nut missing
Removing the commutator cover band by releasing the clamp screw on the cover band (F), we find the cork gasket looks like a tired bit of cardboard. New gasket required.


Greasy brushes:


Mucky scored commutator:


The next thing we do is remove the brass screw (H) securing the end cap (I). Next, we can remove the nuts (J) securing the D and F wires to the end cap terminals

Brass screw H back in place for safe keeping
Next, disconnect the wiring in the commutator end of the dynamo to allow you to continue dismantling.

Disconnect the earth side with this screw

Disconnect the D brush with this screw
Remove the wire link between the D brush and the D terminal on the end cap.

Wire link, D brush to end cap D terminal
Remove the brushes by pulling back their springs with a wire hook, small screwdriver or a small pair of pliers. Pull the brush out gently.

One of the brushes
With the brushes out, you can see the commutator.

Dirty commutator
The next job is to remove the armature. Grip the drive gear in the soft jaws and remove this screw, starting by knocking back the tab washer (if it is still there).


Sometimes the drive gear is a tight fit on the armature. Remove it with a small puller - watch out for the key:



Drive gear dismantled
Next you can remove the two long screws (K) running through the yoke (S). Grip the nuts (L) at the commutator end as you undo the screws.


With the screws out, the armature will pull out of the yoke. I didn't expect to see this ball bearing on the commutator end.


The next step is to free the drive end bracket (O) and the drive end bearing retaining plate (V) from the armature. We'll need to remove the armature shaft nut (M) for this. This has two slots in the top and needs a special tool which I cut from a damaged box spanner:


After some filing and a dose of case hardening it is ready for use:


With the armature in the vice in soft jaws, the tools, equipped with a tommy bar makes short work of the slotted nut.

Rebuilding the Dynamo


Drive End Bearing



Someone has mangled the drive gear journal with a punch - that will clean up easily. The bearing is held in place with these screws. Unfortunately, that fine thread is a poor choice in this soft alloy and one of them has stripped. It's only 73 years old as well...


The bearing is very rough. We'll measure it up and get a new one.


Like this:


It's a double sealed bearing, so that it will retain its own grease and prevent oil coming into the dynamo.

The bearing retaining plate (V) is, as I said, loose. We'll need to repair those tiny stripped screws - I have decided to replace them with 4 BA screws which are slightly larger and will be stronger, especially as I will run the tapping size drill right through the driving end bracket (O), so the screws will be longer. Countersunk 4 BA screws will still fit in the original holes in the plate.

Recutting the drive end bearing threads
The result is quite neat:

New 4BA csk screws in brass
With the drive end bearing assembly complete, we can refit the armature with its nut.

Armature reassembled into the drive end bearing
Next we need to look at the other end.

Commutator End Bearing

The commutator end is still a problem. This is the journal for the bush - the bush ID is 0.318"; this journal is 0.275" OD, which is very undersize...


The rolling bearing should not be there on an E3HM; it maybe home made - there is a journal machined in the end bracket and as previously noted, the journal for the oilite bush is undersize. The bearing is 22 mm OD;


Unfortunately, the journal diameter in the commutator end bracket (Q) is larger.



It's actually 22.5 mm ID. I'm wondering if this was meant for a 7/8" bearing, which is around 22.25 mm OD. They are cheap, and I could order a double sealed (2RS) bearing which would last a while but these bearings will be too large on the ID. Whoever modified this, and it is non-standard, ground the armature to suit the 22 mm bearing. I have no choice but to shim the journal to suit the bearing, which works fine.


I can refit the through bolts and nuts (K) and (L) and move on to the commutator. These are fitted with shakeproof washers both ends - I must remember to fit them when I find some!

Commutator

Once the bearings are sorted, the next step will be to rebuild the commutator. The first job is to thread the field coil leads through the fibre plate on the commutator end bracket (Q)  and fit the plate with the three tiny screws:


I have a set of NOS Lucas 200290 brushes, all the way from Australia:


Holding the springs back, slide a brush into each holder, checking that it is free to slide. Mine are a bit tight and will need a polish. Let the free end of the spring rest on top of the brush:



Wiring Up

The link connecting the D brush to the terminal on the end cap was horrible, as shown earlier. We need a short piece of wire and a couple of small ring terminals to fix it:

Crimped and soldered
Connecting the wires back up is simple, but it pays to be careful with the routing. Try the wiring with the end cover loose:



Its quite tight in there, and the D wire passes closed to the F terminal:


Testing

Quite the easiest way to test the dynamo, re-magnetising it in the process, is by causing it to 'motor' - that is, driving it from a battery and causing it to behave as a DC motor.

To do this, connect the D and F terminals together (I use a small crocodile clip to span the terminals - one jaw in each hole). Connect the case of the dynamo to your battery's earth terminal (negative in the case of the W/NG) and the other terminal (positive in my case) to the crocodile clip. The field coil and the armature are thus both exposed to 6V, and the dynamo should smoothly turn, relatively slowly, in the direction that it will run on your bike. In the W/NG's case this is anti-clockwise when viewed from the commutator.

End Cover

The commutator end will need a new cork gasket. The originals were riveted in place with the bifurcated rivets still remaining in this band:


I've cut some holes with a wad punch to allow the band to fit in place without removing the original rivets:


Drive Pinion

Refit the key and slide the pinion into place. The pinion is retained with a 1/4" BSF screw with an oversize shallow hex head; this is retained with a tab washer. Pimple the tab washer into one of the pinion keyways, and when the screw is tight fold up the tab washer against a flat on the hex head.

A 'before' picture of the drive pinion

Refitting the Dynamo

Once the end cover is back on and the sleeve has been tightened down, you can refit the dynamo. Grease the magneto drive pinion by turning the engine on the decompressor, then slide the dynamo into the retaining strap. Draw the dynamo into place using the sleeve nut.

The sleeve nut whose absence started it all
You can then tighten the strap screws with the special dynamo spanner and refit the yellow and green dynamo and field wires.

Dynamo spanner

Dynamo & field wires