Showing posts with label Altette. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Altette. Show all posts

Friday, 5 September 2025

SQ4 - all done

This might be the last post on the Square Four for a little while - it's next trip is likely to be to my long-term storage at my son's house, where I shall go to collect W/NG to come back for some work - but more on that later .

Today I took the Square on a 15 mile round trip to Cromer to do some painting and do the final shake down on the carburettor and ignition settings. Yesterday I fitted the new mixture screw and this needed a little bit of tweaking to get it spot on and I increase the idle speed slightly - though I think I've got it too high. I also retarded the ignition slightly. 

The good news is that it's running very well. It starts easily and it will pull away cleanly in traffic from low speeds. It flies along on the open road so all in all I'm very happy.

Here it is resting at Gresham church.

Getting home, it occurred to me that in a similar fashion to the light switch yesterday I had not touched the horn for a long time. Since I fitted this horn, which came straight from eBay, I don't think it's had any work done to it and as regular readers will know I've become reasonably adept at adjusting these horns.

I gave this one a little tweak to make the sound a bit more intense.



Saturday, 1 April 2023

W/NG - Horn Repair

 Well it's been a week of cracking through little bike jobs, alongside welding up rust holes in the fuel tank of yet another Eastern Bloc two-stroke, this time an MZ TS125 - but more of that later.

For some while the W/NG horn has been a little touchy, because the horn adjuster doesn't work very well due to a stripped brass lock nut, though I improved it a lot in the middle of last summer by squashing the nut slightly. It has an odd thread, 0.209" x 36 tpi which I found by luck on eBay - it's a bicycle tyre valve core thread!

The adjuster lives behind the tone ring nut:

The one that was fitted had a 10 mm hexagon and was a half nut - it may have been 0 BA at one time and forced on, but I suspect it was the original as it was cadmium plated, or perhaps faded nickel over brass. I made a new one out of 0.445" EN1 hexagon bar, turned with a significant chamfer on one side to clear the inside of the domed tone ring nut:


It works beautifully.


That's it for a bit on W/NG repairs. I still have the bum pad to make and the dynamo bearing felt to put in, and I have to monitor the new seal in the decompressor. The jury is still out on the field stand springs - they still have a safety chain on, though it hasn't made another bid for freedom since I tightened and retempered the bottom spring.

Wednesday, 14 July 2021

W/NG horn repair

The W/NG has had a rather nice military Altette for years, which I found I think on eBay. It's always worked, but never very well - not very loud and with that strangled parrot sound common to Altettes with shims missing or loose parts.

One idle moment I tinkered around with the adjuster, which is quite easy to get to in these early Altettes being hidden under a big cap nut on the front of the horn. I could get it to sound a bit better, but I was puzzled by the adjuster moving out of position after I had tightened it. I realised eventually that the armature, which is held to the diaphragm by a large nut and which contains the adjuster, was loose on the diaphragm.

No matter! Says I, I will tighten it up. Weeks of soaking in various solvents followed as these are notoriously tight and being out in the weather, will corrode up. I eventually loosened it with a big tube spanner, only to find that it wasn't loose on the diaphragm at all but that there was a nice ring of diaphragm material held tightly by the nut but that was no longer attached to the rest of the diaphragm. A fatigue failure after 80 years of service!

Now, you can't buy these parts. I had another Altette to cannibalize, but I also have a TIG welder. After a few attempts (during which time I realised my Tungsten tip was contaminated, hence the mess on the left) I got a decent weld all around and re-fixed the broken ring in its original position.


The Dremel made short work of the excess weld:


In adjusting the horn, I was messing about with the screws on the back. It's important that the internal contact breaker assembly is level:


The two screws on the right fix the contact breaker; the one on the left adjusts the level. Once you have it level, leave the screw alone!


Here's the diaphragm reassembled with the armature and the adjuster. I assembled the rest of the horn and tested it - it didn't work, but the coiled pulled the armature in. Why? Because the diaphragm is upside down in this picture...


With it turned over, it worked beautifully and sounded better than it ever has.

Thursday, 11 August 2016

Altette

Nice ex-WD, period Lucas Altette for the W/NG:


Just needs the right brackets, like this one:


Which looks like this when it has been beaten into submission, painted and installed:


Here's the horn bracket fitted:


...and here is the horn in place. A very tight fit indeed:



Monday, 2 June 2014

A sunny day in June

My Square Four tank, and it does appear to be a Square Four tank (very large and of the appropriate width; large filler, pressure gauge hole) has as I said two taps (it also has a drain at front RH and no crossover pipe). What I neglected to mention (or even realize) was that the taps are forward of the tank mounts:



As you can see, on a Mk1 these are very close to the back of the rocker covers and will get frighteningly hot, I suspect. It looks a little odd; the closest reference I can find to this arrangement is a rather nice '51 KH shown in an article in RealClassic, which has two Ewarts taps in a similar location. The curious thing is, I have scoured all the KH and SQ4 parts books I can find and they all describe a single tap.

Hmm... Is this really a Square Four Tank?

So, one plan is to use a pair of Ewarts type plunger taps, 3/8" BSP into the tank with horizontal outlets. I will then make a copper/rubber tube assembly to tie the two taps together into the single inlet to the Solex. An alternative would be to blank the tap hole on the RH, and use a two-level plunger tap on the nearside - but I am not sure I have room for that.

I will need a supply of tube, nipples and gland nuts to make up this assembly - and I guess I will make a tee out of some brass barstock. I'm not sure where to buy these parts yet...

On a brighter note, she is a very handsome machine:


Max is nonplussed


Ariel do not seemed to have paid a lot of attention to the maintainability of their machines. Two maintenance items in this picture, neither of them easily accessed AND I have removed the kick start lever. More positively, the oil tank is now hooked up.


The valve timing is done, with a little help from my daughter - assembling the cam chain tensioner is not a one-man job:


And the exhaust pipes are looking good. The eagle eyed amongst you will notice the clutch dome is still off:




I have discovered however that when I straightened the RH footrest hanger, I straightened it too much and it now fouls the exhaust pipe.

More wiring done this weekend too. Horn and Lucas 529 rear light fitted:



and I am not sure what to do about the throttle cable abutment:


Thursday, 22 December 2011

Fill in jobs...

This is an original Lucas Altette, bought from eBay for the Ariel. Apart from one stripped thread and non-original acorn nut, it is perfect.
It came with the right angle bracket, an original Lucas one, that is used on the earlier machines with the smaller battery. Since Amelia should have the big 20 Amphour battery, we will use the straight bracket shown attached to the horn. I bought this from Vintage Bike & it looks like a nice quality part.